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July 03, 2009


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Just about any chemical can be shown to be hamrful (including cancer) to humans. It just depends on the dose.Regarding shellfish, there is a chemical that shellfish produce that cause an allergic reaction. Some people are sensitive to this and get an allergic reaction,other people are less sensitive to it and get no reaction. Other people develop a sensitivity to it over time and exposure, you are probably one of these. It is a natural thing.Due to contaminants in the ocean it has been known for a long time that certain fish are unhealthy to eat. This is due to bio-accumulation of certain chemicals (eg Mercury). The fish that are susceptible to this are fish that are at the end of the food chain, large fish and fish that are slow to grow. That is, fish that are old eat lots of other fish and fish that consume huge quantities of other fish.Deep sea fish, because they are in an area that is scarce of food, tend to take a long time to mature, grow. hence they tend to bio-accumulate toxic substances.The best thing to look for when eating fish is fish that are low down in the food chain and that grow quickly. Generally they are the ones that are near the coast.Hope this helpsSALT EATS THROUGH TIN AND IT HAS BEGUN,IN BOTTOM OF THE SEA ,THE PLANKTON IS BORN ,TO FEED ALL LIFE ,IN THE SEVEN SEAS, SICK WORLD




"It is time once again to look into the salmon fishing crystal ball, and while anglers were flush with a record-sized pink salmon return last season, it looks like this summer will be the crowning "Year of the Kings."

More than 650,000 king salmon, the largest and most prized of the salmon species, are expected back to the Columbia River.

That equates to about 234,000 more than last year, and will be one of the largest returns since 2002. "

Read more: http://www.tri-cityherald.com/2010/06/26/1070608/columbia-salmon-fishery-fit-for.html#ixzz0suzEVCRz

"In Oregon, the 2010 Spring Chinook run is forecast to increase by up to 150% over 2009 populations, growing from 200,000 to over 500,000, making this the largest run in recorded history."

Hi. Just looking over your blog and a few things stuck out in this posting. Your comment about "24 inch salmon" being rare to see now days at the viewing station of the dams shows a lack of study on this and more of in interest in feeding an agenda. Take a look at the actual numbers of king salmon coming up the Columbia. These are KING salmon. BIG fish (20-50lbs). Then you have the smaller silvers, steelhead, and others. Those fish will be 24 inches on the SMALL end (not counting the numerous 'jack' salmon). The sockeye run may be what you are thinking of(?). Sockeye are just a smaller, but numerous, species compared to the others.

I agree that fish farms are not the answer unless they can make some major changes. But writing off seafood entirely is a bit drastic. Istead of having to make a choice of surf OR turf, I prefer to select surf AND turf. They go so well together. The only hard part is choosing what kind of meat and seafood to eat.

As the links above show, runs of salmon have been doing well. Accross the state we have had record returns in various systems.

As a child, I did a lot of fishing. I have actually seen runs of fish increase in several systems compared to what they were when my dad was fishing them. He pretty much gave up back in the 70's and 80's. Today when I take him out, he can't believe what he has been missing all these years as we enjoy some quality time together catching some beautiful fresh fish for the table.

air yeezy

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The sad thing is that seafood could be sustainable, if it was properly managed. It's just that so little of it is, and that puts a heavy strain on the whole ecosystem, so that even the well managed fisheries are strained.

I still eat seafood, b/c it is just so damn good for the body, but I try not to eat too much of it. One oyster actually has as much zinc as you body needs for a month. If we all chose our seafood carefully for high nutrient content and minimal impact, I think we could eat less of it and still get some of the health without damaging the oceans.

I hope so, anyway.

Frank Kim

Great post. But can we not continue eating seafood by staying away from farmed fish and concentrating on the small fish like sardines and mackeral? I can definitely understand your concern though.

Walter Jeffries

We raise and sell pastured pigs (no commercial feeds, really pasture, not grain fed) in Vermont (in addition to sheep, chickens, ducks & geese for our own family). It is sustainable. Ocean fare is sustainable too. The question is not if but at what level and for what use we put the harvest to. Eat fish, eat meat, eat veggies, eat grains, eat fruit - all in moderation. A gentle omnivore diet is the most sustainable, especially in our northern climate. Eating a little fish a year isn't a threat to the ocean stocks.

Throwback at Trapper Creek

Like you. I grew up in the PNW right near the dams, wild salmon, and fishermen. While salmon was commonly on our plates as a child, no longer can we feel right about eating any type of seafood.

The environment has degraded in such a short time, it is shocking. The mountain streams I fished as child now have next to no wild fish. I know by fishing as a child, I helped hasten the demise of the fish, but many other polluting factors come into play also.

When we try to explain to people that our beef cows are the most sustainable meat, we are usually met with skepticism. The same old tired facts about feedlot beef have nothing to do with the way we raise our cows. They harvest their own feed for many months of the year, and because they are grazing green grass, they do not drink near the water of their feedlot friends who are fed only dry feed. They also are fertilizing the land as they go. A win-win situation. Our pastured poultry operation was not as transparent, with feed brought in from who-knows-where. We feel better stopping that part of our business, while the fertilzer benefits of the chickens was quickly realized, always in the back of our minds was the fact that industrial farming was going on somewhere to provide these grains that were not available locally. Not providing chicken to our customers was disappointing to them, and a relief to us.

I second the recommendation of Greg Judy's Comeback Farms. It makes perfect sense, that while I have been moving my cows every 24 hours, I was grazing the grass too soon, with a 45 day rest a longer rest is much better. It will take a while to get to 150 day rest, but any increase in the rest period will make a great difference.

Here is a link to Holistic Management, some great information on their site.

Great post Rebecca, I am looking forward to the rest of the series.

Bob T

Well I can still eat farmed oysters according to: http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/cr/SeafoodWatch/web/sfw_factsheet.aspx?fid=82 . But that's about it.

I grew up eating brislings canned in sild oil from Norway--no longer available. Much missed.

The more I learn about global fish farming and ocean abuse the more outraged ... . The oceans' role in the Carbon cycle is overlooked. (Coral reefs are made of carbonates which are made from Carbon dioxide that was recently in the atmosphere. Of course the living biota in the oceans are also a sink of Carbon.)


I've had similar thoughts, particularly after reading the book Cod: A Biography of the Fish that Changed the World, by Mark Kurlansky. I can wrap my head around the ramifications of consuming pasture based land animals, but the decision-making about seafood just makes my head hurt.


Greg Judy has some excellent ideas for raising cows on grass with almost no inputs via high-density grazing in his book, 'Comeback Farms: Rejuvenating soils, pastures & profits with livestock grazing management.' Great way to provide good food and save the planet at the same time. A highly recommended book.

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