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October 17, 2008

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Adam

Is the grassland too vast to do controlled burns? Would introducing bison, for instance, likely result in an ecological catastrophe? Would there be a way of releasing sterile cows and/or steers and allowing them to remain relatively free and without slaughter? If so, I'm on board.

[[H. sapiens is just another species, but most members of said species possess the ability to deliberate and are moral agents. As such, we are different from (though, not superior to) non-deliberative animals (including H. sapiens). Because of our capacities we are obligated to act in respect of other members of our (biological) community. This does not mean "let things be," so much as not colonizing others' spaces and places through the regime of scientific and corporate management.]]

Rebecca T. of HonestMeat

Humans and other animals make use of their environment and create changes in the landscape, either intentionally or not. Have you ever seen what a herd of elephants do to a watering hole? How about how beavers dam up creeks and create lakes while building their homes? If, as you say, humans are no different than any other animal, we are also no different in that we use our environment.
We should 'manage' the lands that we abused. It is a science called ecological restoration.
The extent of shrublands has unnaturally increased due to fire suppression, so we either need to let things burn, or we need to manage them in other ways, such as through controlled grazing.

Adam

SarahDowntoEarth writes: "The nature of humanity is to modify and manipulate our environment to make it more suitable for our living... who'd like to go back to living in trees and caves, for instance?"


Personally, I find this definition of human nature very uncreative and problematic. Exactly who is human and who/what is "our environment." This ideology is rooted in the patriarchal, stewardship philosophy of Abrahamic religions. This was the logic behind "manifest destiny" and other colonialist policies to put all of nature (and those associated with it) under White Man's Reason. There need be no dichotomy between altering an ecological community and living in one humbly.

On another note, 1) why must we "manage" these lands instead of letting them grow wildly? 2) Is a grazing animal now locally extinct so in order to preserve the pre-colonial ecosystem we must "manage" it? Or, 3) is this simply an excuse for people to entrepreneurial uses of these wild habits and the profiteering off cows and steers? 4) What is "bad" or undesirable about the transformation of these grasslands into shrub lands--especially if they would anyways without any human intervention?

Sara DowntoEarth

Thank you for pointing out that grazing (and most of our production practices) are neither all-good nor all-bad.

The nature of humanity is to modify and manipulate our environment to make it more suitable for our living. That is not inherently bad; who'd like to go back to living in trees and caves, for instance? That same intelligence that leads us to modify, however, needs to be employed at every step to evaluate the big picture and long term impact.

Nathan

It's some sort of coincidence that you posted this today, because earlier today I spent way too much time reading this: http://nmag.soton.ac.uk/tf/permaculture/, a lengthly transcript of Bill Mollison's course on permaculture and land use. There's a long section on grasslands and grazing, and water management using the keyline system and soil conditioning. Some of it is a little out there, some if it is hard to understand because it was originally a lecture so it's hard to tell when he's joking, but he makes a lot of very perceptive observations.

I look forward to talking with you at the market about it.

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